BitGonzo

BitGonzo

There was a post made quite a while back regarding the first two, which made mention of Tesla:

I originally started using HTTPoison, but have recently realised it is plagued with timeouts. It became such a problem for some that someone developed an extension to retry (as that seemed to solve most of the problems):

Issue which mentions changing version of Hackney helped:

https://github.com/edgurgel/httpoison/issues/291

Has anybody else experienced these issues with HTTPoison? I will be making around 300 concurrent requests/second (to start), and so want to reduce failure build-up as much as possible.

Tesla appears to have retry middleware built into it, and the ability to switch the adaptor (httpc, ibrowse, hackney).

https://github.com/teamon/tesla#direct-usage

I know the only real answer is to test each of these libraries under load, but I’d be interested to hear if anyone has run into any of the issues mentioned above. I can’t seem to find any information on why these timeouts sporadically happen. Don’t know if it’s the library or the adaptor or some lower-level processing.

As an aside - are there other options to increase the reliability? Perhaps using the adaptors directly? Or offloading the work to a more battle-tested library in another language?

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idi527

idi527

There is lpgauth/buoy if you really need high performance (comes at a cost).

Or offloading the work to a more battle-tested library in another language?

I’ve only heard about puzza007/katipo which uses libcurl.

BitGonzo

BitGonzo OP

Good to know! Thanks. I’ll look into those. Might be able to accept those costs.

idi527

idi527

If you are making requests to servers running nginx (or any other sane web server), then you should be okay, I think. I’ve used buoy to interface with google cloud storage api and it worked well.

I’ve never used katipo.

BitGonzo

BitGonzo OP

The requests could be going to any server, it’s not an internal tool. Hmm.. cheers, I’ll think it over a little more. Looking at the benchmarks, there was a 0% failure rate in almost all cases, including with Hackney. Makes me think something else is up - they are using 256gb ram. One of the causes of the random timeouts in Hackney was something to do with how it was managing internal queues. So could be a memory issue.

I think I’ll have to load test these libs myself. I think that’s the only way I can be sure.

steven7

steven7

I have used HTTPoison in my production server and I am too plagued with unknown intermittent timeout issues even though I am already running the latest hackney. @BitGonzo Just wondering which library you go for in the end?

BitGonzo

BitGonzo OP

Sounds like a Hackney issue. I’ve been using Tesla and the default adaptor (httpc) and not had any problems. Have wrapped all of my requests so that I can switch out the library if it becomes a problem in the future.

Our loads will likely vary so YMMV, too.

https://github.com/teamon/tesla#adapters

ConnorRigby

ConnorRigby

Nerves Core Team

I almost always start out with httpc which is built right into erlang. The api is kind of eh because it’s built for Erlang instead of Elixir, but it has never done me wrong.

OvermindDL1

OvermindDL1

It doesn’t verify certificates though last I checked?

voltone

voltone

Correct. Most HTTP clients still inherit :ssl’s default of verify: :none, meaning connections to HTTPS URLs silently ignore the server’s certificate:

iex(1)> :httpc.request('https://untrusted-root.badssl.com/')
{:ok,
 {{'HTTP/1.1', 200, 'OK'}, ...}}

At least in recent versions, when passing in verify: :verify_peer and a trust store (e.g. from the certifi package) both chain validation and hostname verification work out-of-the-box:

iex(2)> :httpc.request(:get, {'https://untrusted-root.badssl.com/', []}, [ssl: [verify: :verify_peer, cacertfile: :certifi.cacertfile]], [])
{:error,
 {:failed_connect, ...}}

iex(3)> :httpc.request(:get, {'https://wrong.host.badssl.com/', []}, [ssl: [verify: :verify_peer, cacertfile: :certifi.cacertfile]], [])    
{:error,
 {:failed_connect, ...}}

(There are some known issues with cross-signed and wildcard certs, though; I would recommend using the ssl_verify_fun package for maximum server compatibility)

Edit: the above testing was done with Erlang/OTP 21 (inets 7.0)

steven7

steven7

I am suspecting its hackney issue too, but I really like HTTPoison default ssl options and connection pooling (hackney) but the timeout issue is really a dealbreaker. httpc also seemed to be slower for me as well as my use case require me to have concurrent TCP connections.

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