I wanted to get SASS working with Phoenix, but I just wasted my entire morning trying unsuccessfully to resolve npm dependencies (ie webpack 4.4 requires a package that requires webpack 4.36, and every attempt to fix is slow as molasses). Is there any way to use Phoenix without having to spend an inordinate amount of time of time messing around with npm or should I give up now?
It’s mostly due to the ever moving js world. There is a post by @peerreynders here that explains how to procede with babel config. Don’t miss the ncu -u part, which is really cool tip to update your npm dependencies.
Don’t forget to add node-sass and sass-loader.
A good start would be to show part of your package.json and webpack.config.js.
These are rules I am using for sass, fonts, images… (in webpack.config.js)
Opting out of npm is a bit more problematic because you then have to be responsible for including phoenix_html.js and phoenix.js.
And while SASS will probably remain the standard for complex projects there has been a noticable trend towards simply using modern CSS features like CSS custom properties and a handful of (Node.js powered) PostCSS plugins instead of full-blown SASS for more basic needs.
At the most basic level Phoenix will serve static assets out of
config :my_app, MyAppWeb.Endpoint, watchers: […] does only handle that e.g. the webpack watcher is started when phoenix is serving the endpoint. This is completely unrelated to live reloading, which only works based on the wildcards listed in :live_reload.
Any external tool, which can put/update files in priv/static will trigger live reloads.
It is unrelated to Phoenix.LiveReload - but it it is an integral part to the live reloading development cycle.
Phoenix.LiveReload won’t have anything to do (frontend asset -wise) unless files in those directories are changed - (watching and) updating the static asset files is the responsibility of the script that is started by watchers - so the watchers configuration is an integral part of the live reloading development cycle even if that is part of the Phoenix.Endpoint rather than the Phoenix.LiveReload configuration.
Not really. I could just as well edit a style.css file manually in priv/static and it would be live reloaded. A watcher is only needed if there’s a compilation step to be done when source files are edited. For anyone working directly with the to-be-deployed assets this can be skipped completely.
In that situation the file edited would be an .scss or .sass file. A recurring theme in top 10 web development mistakeslists is not using automatic browser refresh when any of the development assets are being updated - that is what the watchers configuration is for.
A watcher script preparing (and copying) frontend assets is an essential ingredient in a modern web development workflow that aims to automate browser refreshes for development.
If your aim is to trigger an automatic browser refresh (i.e. live reload development) when any .scss or .sass file is modified then you need to configure watchers.
I’m not disputing that this is the better case, but I still doubt that insisting on the need on some kind of watcher controlled by phoenix is the only way to go. In the past I’ve had great success with tools like CodeKit, which bundles all the dirty details of compiling source files in an easy to use desktop app. Sure this is not great for workflows involving CI/CD, but such applications can still be viable solutions outside of those constraints. Not everybody needs/uses a project building workflow with all the bells and whistles. When aware of the potential downsides it can be perfectly fine to opt for simpler solutions.
The issues you’re having aren’t with Elixir, Phoenix.
I personally don’t use Webpack or any other JS-based build tool exactly because of the issues you’ve encountered. I use a mixture of Rust CLI tools and believe it or not, Make. These integrate well with Phoenix as @peerreynders explained to you.
The issues you’ve encountered are with front-end development in general. JS and the build tools that often come with it are a fact of life unless you can forego JS and other static asset compilation entirely.
Coming to a forum, asking a question and having a number of people write out extremely thorough, clear and well researched answers — that are better than the docs in this case! — only to throw it back in their face with an arrogant, knee-jerk of a response is not cool at all.
If your “one-man webdev business” is going to survive, then you’ll need to learn about how to be nice to people, not compile your Sass without Webpack.