shortlyportly
Hi All.
I’ve started to look at Surface and it looks really good. I have a fairly complex LiveView app at the moment and I was considering tranitioning to Surface. I wondered if anyone with some experience could answer a couple of questions:
- Are there any additional performance challenges with using Surface (above and beyond the standard LiveView ones).
- Has anyone come across any “show stopper” with Surface?
- Can I easily mix Surface and LiveView together (so drop down to LiveView where Surface might not be the correct answer).
Many thanks
Dave
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hauleth
tejpochiraju
I recently added Surface to one of our LiveView apps and didn’t face any challenges. As @hauleth mentioned, Surface is only a compiler so the underlying components are LiveViews and your controller code doesn’t need to change at all.
That said, there is a useful @data macro for assigns that you could use. Since it’s pretty early days, you may find yourself building some components yourself (we have a custom table, panel and buttons).
I am not entirely sure how I feel about having part of the app in pure LiveView and part of it in Surface. I have decided to pause the migration and wait for the upcoming Phoenix.Component (EDIT).
kokolegorille
There is a big change coming with Liveview 0.16 with a new Html engine.
https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md
Some rewrite will be needed to support the new syntax.
tejpochiraju
Also the reason I paused. I would rather move to the canonical solution.
My understanding is that a
Phoenix.Componentcan be used in both LiveView andeextemplates although I can’t seem to recall where I picked this up.josevalim
Correct! And Surface will likely just use Phoenix.Component too, so everything should be using the same abstractions.
msaraiva
Yes. It will use
Phoenix.Componentfor sure. Using the same abstractions means you’ll be able to write components using Surface or HEEx and use them in any LV project. There are still some features we need to bring to LV itself to make that become a reality but we’re already working on it and we hope we can get there soon.tejpochiraju
First of all thanks for Surface - it massively eased my path into LiveView because of the familiarity of components & Bulma.
Given
Phoenix.Component, what would you say will become Surface’s USP? Why would one choose it over the built-ins? (Curious, not rude!)derek-zhou
Surface is built upon LiveView, so it is not Surface vs LiveView, but really Surface vs leex. The biggest benefit to me is that Surface is more curated; it nudges you onto the right track without taking away functionality. leex is very powerful, but there are too many ways to shoot yourself in the foot.
shortlyportly
Thanks everyone for the great answers. I’m definitely going to try out Surface now.
cheers
Dave
Malian
In addition to what @derek-zhou said, Surface comes with a lot of features that Phoenix Live View does not support (yet?). Here is a non-exhaustive list of these features:
prop,slot,dataCardcomponent with aheaderand afooterslots https://surface-ui.org/slots...attrs,...props, … (For example<MyComponent active={@active} />could be rewrited to<MyComponent {=@active} />) https://surface-ui.org/template_syntax#tagged-expressionsFeel free to look at https://surface-ui.org or join the Surface slack channel for more info