ckhrysze

ckhrysze

I really have no idea how popular or well known these benchmarks are, but I’ve been following TechEmpower Framework Benchmarks for some time. I was happy to see some elixir/erlang entries recently, but then concerned with their performance. Given that phoenix at least has a high error count, I imagine that is at least part of the issue. I intend to take a look when I both learn enough to feel useful and get the chance, but I’m posting it here in case there are others more able that have the bandwidth to improve things sooner.

I understand that abstract benchmarks are always of only limited use, and each project will have its own performance characteristics; but performing well in a 3rd party (and theoretically unbiased) suite like this could help with adoption.

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uranther

uranther

I was looking at these benchmarks too the other day. And I also noticed the high error rate on Phoenix’s benchmarks. It seems strange to me, like their server wasn’t setup right. It seems implausible that Phoenix could perform so poorly. The GitHub repo is here - I thought about pulling it down and running the benchmarks myself. For one thing, the version of Phoenix is out of date, so we could make a pull request to update those dependencies.

AstonJ

AstonJ

Agree about the extremely high error rate suggesting they have set something up wrong. You’d think they’d investigate first before publishing :confused:

ckhrysze

ckhrysze OP

Many of the packages there are entirely by outside groups; that is part of the appeal to me actually, that those evangelizing their favorites can actually submit improvements.

mackenza

mackenza

I saw on twitter a response from Chris McCord somewhere (Twitter, Reddit, HN, ?) that stated there were serious problems with the configuration and that they had submitted a PR to fix some issues and nothing had been done. Also there was some caveat to the numbers posted where they had their hardware decommissioned and scrambled to get it published which meant the frameworks got no time to tweak/fix stuff.

I would say the jury is WAY out on the legitimacy of the numbers.

perishabledave

perishabledave

I believe this is the comment you’re talking about:

Any reason why Elixir/Phoenix did so badly in Round 12 of Techempower benchmarks?

We don’t know what caused the errors and unfortunately we didn’t have a chance to collaborate with them on a true run. A few months ago they added Phoenix in a preview, but it was a very poor implementation. They were testing JSON benchmarks through the :browser pipeline, complete with crsf token generation. They had a dev DB pool size of 10, where other frameworks were given of pool size of 100. And they also had heavy IO logging, where other frameworks did no logging. We sent a PR to address these issues, and I was hoping to see true results in the latest runs, but no preview was provided this time and we weren’t able to work with them on the errors. tldr; these results are not representative of the framework.

3even

3even

169,526 errors?! Based on those benchmarks I might as well go back to Codeigniter. :wink:

mackenza

mackenza

omg… I seriously lol’d. My wife was like WTF?

mkunikow

mkunikow

satb

satb

Hot off the presses in the round 14 battle - TechEmpower Framework Benchmarks

Phoenix somewhere at the median line. I am not too crazy about these numbers. Just interesting to watch.

brightball

brightball

Nothing about that looks right

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