cvkmohan
Tidewave - Initial impressions
A few first thoughts. tidewave is working extremely well with vscode and github copilot. It is unimaginable productivity growth. I have used tidewave with cursor, claude code, cline and vscode copilot. For tasks which are generally moderate ( involving atleast generating 30-100 lines - 2-3 files). For whatever reason vscode copilot gave the best results. cline gave the worst results. A few more observations:
- in
clinethe token usage has increased exponentially - not sure iftidewavein any way responsible for that. Possibly, the huge context built up byclineis causing the problem. - I have observed that
vscode copilotmade the maximum usage of tools fromtidewave. It was much lesser in all other tools. - The amount of halucination has come down drastically once
tidewaveis running. Earlier, these agents would get into endless loops with reference to new heex syntax etc. - and they used to repeatedly make the same mistakes. It has come down significantly.
A few personal notes: - Vibe coding a big project is a myth. For attention seeking on social media, people claim a lot of things. But, we will not be there for sometime - my guess.
- If you can work with a few fellow engineers - you already can work well with these AI tools. There is no brilliance here. In fact, oversmartness results in a lot of productivity and money loss.
- Oneshotting is a term token sellers want to sell like the snakeoil. Do not believe it. Split the application/feature into moderate level - clearly definable task. Just iterate through and you will be there. Any reasonable application would need multiple iterations, small adjustments, lot of handholding the agent etc.
- I would dare say - the developers who will be successful in this domain will be the same developers who are successful elsewhere. Ship quick - ship small - iterate small - iterate clear - these are the success mantras.
Hope this is useful for someone.
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Agree that Cline bills getting expensive. I have already spent a lot of money on cline than others collectively. I have heard this is a common issue with Cline as I have seen people compaining about this in the Cline’s discord.
Relevant link → pash on X: "Gemini 2.5 Pro is beloved by the @cline community. But users are getting $500 surprise bills. The API design makes it impossible to track costs. No realtime pricing + hidden caching costs + time-based billing = chaos for developers. @OfficialLoganK let's solve this together 🧵 https://t.co/hUvQhkVm37" / X
egze
I tried with local ollama models and zed and it is super slow. I didn’t investigate what is actually making it slow, like is it the new agent thread in zed, is it zed, is it ollama + tidewave.
With a paid OpenAI model it worked well. My goal is to make it work with ollama. Ollama works fast enough for normal prompts, without the agent stuff.
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