ardhitama

ardhitama

Hi all,

I need help on understanding supervisor role in “ordinary” web architecture.

I’m thinking the data flow will be like the following (notice the plurals):

clientLoad Balancer (LB)elixir appsworkers

or

clientLBelixir appssupervisorworkers

or

clientLBelixir appsLBworkers

or

clientLBelixir appsmessage queueworkers

The questions are:

  1. Where the supervisor should resides?
  2. Does LB and MQ diminish the role of a supervisor?

Or I might be wrong at all as thinking OTP supervisor as infrastructure layer supervisor.

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NobbZ

NobbZ

The supervisor doesn’t do anything to your request. It just sits there and restart crashed processes.

ardhitama

ardhitama OP

so, supervisor doesn’t manages child node process at all?

peerreynders

peerreynders

Supervision trees is how you impose structure to your Erlang programs. They start with a simple concept, a supervisor, whose only job is to start processes, look at them, and restart them when they fail. By the way, supervisor are one of the core components of ‘OTP’, the general development framework used in the name ‘Erlang/OTP’.

NobbZ

NobbZ

Usually it only managed static and longrunning processes, not such that are only spawned to handle a single request/workunit/connection or similar.

ardhitama

ardhitama OP

yes, but that article doesn’t mention supervisor’s relationship with “non OTP system” like the LB and MQ.

peerreynders

peerreynders

Supervisor is an OTP concept. The load balancing between nodes is the responsibility of the BEAM. RabbitMQ is an OTP application (unless you are talking about the BEAM process mailboxes - the mailbox is an integral part of any BEAM process while the BEAM handles the details of message routing between BEAM processes).

dom

dom

Is your question about Erlang supervisors, or the abstract idea of a supervisor in general?

Assuming the first, in your example, supervisors are internal to the Elixir app (and the message queue, if you’re using rabbitmq). They have nothing to do with load balancing, etc. It’s just a way of organizing work within an OS process. It’s not an infra-level concept.

dom

dom

The BEAM spreads processes on schedulers within a single node. It doesn’t load balance between nodes.

peerreynders

peerreynders

RIght - got carried away there - the BEAM distributes the processes across the all the cores available to the node.

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