ardhitama
Hi all,
I need help on understanding supervisor role in “ordinary” web architecture.
I’m thinking the data flow will be like the following (notice the plurals):
client → Load Balancer (LB) → elixir apps → workers
or
client → LB → elixir apps → supervisor → workers
or
client → LB → elixir apps → LB → workers
or
client → LB → elixir apps → message queue → workers
The questions are:
- Where the supervisor should resides?
- Does LB and MQ diminish the role of a supervisor?
Or I might be wrong at all as thinking OTP supervisor as infrastructure layer supervisor.
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NobbZ
The supervisor doesn’t do anything to your request. It just sits there and restart crashed processes.
ardhitama
so, supervisor doesn’t manages child node process at all?
peerreynders
NobbZ
Usually it only managed static and longrunning processes, not such that are only spawned to handle a single request/workunit/connection or similar.
ardhitama
yes, but that article doesn’t mention supervisor’s relationship with “non OTP system” like the LB and MQ.
peerreynders
Supervisor is an OTP concept. The load balancing between nodes is the responsibility of the BEAM. RabbitMQ is an OTP application (unless you are talking about the BEAM process mailboxes - the mailbox is an integral part of any BEAM process while the BEAM handles the details of message routing between BEAM processes).
dom
Is your question about Erlang supervisors, or the abstract idea of a supervisor in general?
Assuming the first, in your example, supervisors are internal to the Elixir app (and the message queue, if you’re using rabbitmq). They have nothing to do with load balancing, etc. It’s just a way of organizing work within an OS process. It’s not an infra-level concept.
dom
The BEAM spreads processes on schedulers within a single node. It doesn’t load balance between nodes.
peerreynders
RIght - got carried away there - the BEAM distributes the processes across the all the cores available to the node.