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OvermindDL1
For my own servers I run Debian, it has a massive ecosystem and is very well documented.
At work it is a mixture of Windows Server 2008 and RedHat 7(.5?). The Windows is because some of the stupid government crap requires it and RedHat because they like wasting money (that OS has caused us so many issues that just do not exist in Debian).
Personally I would rather use Illumos (one of its derivatives to be specific) as it has some of the best code, best uptime, cleanest updating, and Zones are just fantastic, like really, Illumos Zones there is just no match for, they are just fantastic. ^.^
AstonJ
I’ve been using CentOS in our servers for about 10 years - and it has always been rock solid, reliable and secure. The only downside (and I guess the same with Debian) is that packages are somewhat out of date. Even the kernel is 3.10 on the latest 7.3 version. (Though of course that’s precisely why they are more reliable/secure
).
So… I was thinking about moving to Ubuntu. Discourse pretty much needs it as it does not work nicely with devicemapper and needs something like Aufs or OverlayFS (neither are good options on CentOS - at least not without upgrading the kernel to a non-supported version).
I’m worried about using Ubuntu tho - I know people who tried it in the past but regretted it, though that was a good few years ago.
With regards to Erlang/Elixir - are they supported equally on CentOS, Debian and Ubuntu? Or are versions outdated on the former two?
OvermindDL1
That is never something I’d say about using years-old kernels!!! o.O
I use an Ubuntu server on one of my setups, it’s like debian, since it basically is debian but with more package repo’s by default. ^.^;
They work perfectly fine on them all.
Though I always compile manually so I can add in some more optimizations and system-specific things that pre-built versions do not do. But on Debian and Ubuntu the erlang-solutions repository always has the most up-to-date Erlang and Elixir both (and older versions available too if you need). No clue about CentOS. On RedHat at work I did my usual thing of compiling it manually. ^.^;
AstonJ
Sorry, I meant stability/compatibility - which I believe is the reason they stick with older kernels.
With regards to Debian, I see 9.1 uses kernel 4.9 - would you recommend Debian over Ubuntu? I tried Debian once, but was short of time and it didn’t work with something so gave up on it. I think I might prefer it over Ubuntu as I hear it and CentOS are pretty similar in terms of reliability, performance and stability/security.
OvermindDL1
Debian and Ubuntu use the same packaging systems and you can use each other’s repo’s on the other. Overall Ubuntu comes with more stuff immediately accessible and is probably more widely supported that if I were to make a new server and I could only pick debian or ubuntu, I’d probably pick Ubuntu Server currently. I’m curious what you had that did not work on debian, that is not a common thing.
AstonJ
I think it was Webmin that didn’t work - but was a good few years ago..
OvermindDL1
Webmin works fine with debian. It is not something I use but I set it up for someone a while back and it worked fine.
bitwalker
My last gig I used Alpine for all our Elixir/Erlang applications since we were running on a containerized infrastructure, so it was minimal and lightweight. The host machines ran CentOS 7, my current gig is also running on CentOS - not my favorite, but it’s stable and I haven’t really ever had trouble with it, which is pretty much exactly what you want.
+1. That or FreeBSD. Unfortunately I have yet to work at a company that shared that opinion, and I suspect that isn’t going to change any time soon.
AstonJ
Were they Docker containers Paul?
The main reason I am looking at alternatives is because Docker does not like Centos’s devicemapper and prefers aufs or overlayfs (which doesn’t play nice with centos).
bitwalker
The containers were Alpine, the hosts were CentOS 7, running Docker/Kubernetes/OpenShift. IIRC, we weren’t having any issues on CentOS with Docker, and I believe we were using devicemapper. That said, things change, and it’s possible that now things are such that they don’t play well together - I haven’t been at that job for about 8 months now, so they may have switched gears if that’s the case.