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<p>I can not work with mice that have a high latency, and none of the wireless mice we had at the office had a latency low enough to be usable <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> Despite beeing “gaming mice”.</p>
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<p>On my desktop I use the <a href="https://www.logitechg.com/en-roeu/products/gaming-mice/g305-lightspeed-wireless-gaming-mouse.html" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Logitech G305</a>, and there’s no perceptable lag like there is with some older mice. It’s light and the battery lasts for ages. If it’s the right kind of shape for your hand/grip-style, I’d heartily recommend it.</p>
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<p>It’s the first wireless mouse I’ve been happy to use for action games, including Quake Champions. I haven’t played for a few months, but I have a “fingertip” grip and like playing as Slash. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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<p>I mention both (I’ve used a precursor of the M570 at work):<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RCC53YLV2YGV1" class="onebox" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RCC53YLV2YGV1</a></p>
<p>Personally I’d choose the Orbit over the M570 but ultimately prefer the Trackman Marble Trackball; as in all things - YMMV.</p>
<p>The <a href="https://support.logitech.com/en_us/product/trackman-marble-fx" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Trackman Marble FX</a> was great as well but was discontinued.</p>
<p>If I felt adventurous I’d be inclined to look at ELECOM M-HT1URBK, ELECOM Trackball Mouse M-DPT1MRXBK, ELECOM M-DT2DRBK etc.</p> 
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								<p>I use this too (<a href="https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=asc_df_B0043T7FXE/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=293004044609&amp;hvpos=1o5&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=5136130267318095533&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9000986&amp;hvtargid=pla-365069349813&amp;psc=1" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Logitech M570</a>). Cheap but solid build quality, decent ergonomics. Most importantly, its ubiquitous and I can pick up another one literally anywhere, so I don’t have to adjust to something else if I forget it when travelling or lose the usb nub. To use the infra metaphor, my mice are cattle rather than pets.</p> 
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								<p>A Logitech trackball is what I use with my favorite laptop.</p>
<p>On my company desktop,  I use an old,  nondescript Dell wired mouse. It was from one or two computers back. When I got a new PC, the mouse was garbage so I kept my old one.</p> 
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<p>That mouse hasn’t been available at office when I was testing the mice. And at home, I’ll never get rid of my loved wire as long as the children are in this age of hiding everything <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> I do not want to share my wifes destiny and search for the mouse every other day <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Thank you,<br>
The trackman looks interesting but I’ve seen someone talking about it saying it has no scroll wheel… that would be a bit of nuisance for me I guess.<br>
I didn’t know about the Elecom, I will have a look at them later so thanks <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"><br>
With the orbit, the only thing that worries me is  the wrist position: wouldn’t holding your hand horizontally as for a normal mouse still cause pronation issues?</p> 
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<p>I’ve seen someone talking about it saying it has no scroll wheel…</p>
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<p>It doesn’t - people who feel they need it typically <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39688867/marble-trackman-scroll-with-holding-button-only-on-windows" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">add it with supplementary software</a> (<a href="https://autohotkey.com/board/topic/4677-wheel-button-emulation-script/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">alternate</a>).</p>
<p>“Mouse wheels” became a thing when Microsoft made them popular in 1996 with the intellimouse explorer by which point in time I’ve been using Logitech three button mice for years (C7 (1985), S9 (1989), MouseMan (1990)) and its emergence was a non-event for me personally.</p>
<p>The appearance the scroll wheel likely hampered further evolution of the UX of the scrollbar - so I saw it as a mechanical hack for a problem of a different nature (scroll arrow position).<br>
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Now scroll arrows have become obsolete (scroll thumbs hide in the shadows) and scrolling horizontally is strongly discouraged; is that always a good thing? I don’t know.<p></p>
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<p>wouldn’t holding your hand horizontally as for a normal mouse still cause pronation issues?</p>
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<p>You are not holding your hand horizontally as you would with a mouse - the mouse has to move, while trackball by design doesn’t (which also makes it easier to find on the desk when you are not looking because it isn’t going anywhere).</p>
<p>So your wrist rests on the desk while your fingers manipulate the trackball (clicking the primary button is an easy task for a thumb).</p>
<p>Nevertheless the transition from mouse to trackball can be quite an ordeal for some people. I don’t know anybody who successfully migrated <em>gradually</em> - cold turkey seems to be the only way that works. Lock that mouse/trackpad away and throw away the key. Some are fortunate enough to get through it in half a day, others need 3-4 days. In my experience most people who get to the other side don’t want to go back.</p> 
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								<p><a href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/what-keyboard-do-you-use/3303/292" rel="nofollow">Resurrecting this thread for</a> <a class="mention" href="/u/dimitarvp" rel="nofollow">@dimitarvp</a> <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/e/eeeb233200649755081ca35d45b3feef6e730376.gif?v=15" title=":icon_smile:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":icon_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>Best mouse I’ve had is the Logitech MX Master</p>
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<p>As an update, I think the best mouse I’ve had now is the Apple Magic Mouse - I love it! The only thing I hate is you can’t use it while charging <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/7dd7fbbec45975128d33769e1e007321b9a52a47.gif?v=15" title=":021:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":021:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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