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								<p>Cool!! You’ll have to show us it in action when you get it <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6c3193d1dd46244da3c8c6f719c9f5e2abdd5ae8.gif?v=15" title=":003:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":003:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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<p>it was interesting learning that <a href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/linux-users-thread/24466/40" rel="nofollow">Saša</a> went back to it after being a Mac user for a while. I will be interested in hearing how he feels at the 6 and 12 month mark</p>
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<p>After three months in, I’m still happy and don’t miss mac. But ask me again in a few months <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>Yeah RAM is always worth upgrading - 32GB is quickly going to feel lacking imo!</p>
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<p>I feel that my RAM demands are significantly smaller on Linux. On Mac, I was constantly struggling with 16GB, while these days I rarely go above 8GB. To be fair I’m working on different projects, so this comparison is really shallow. Either way it feels that 32GB should serve me fine for the next few years.</p>
<p>In any case, the new MBP looks great, and I’m happy to see that Apple is going back to producing quality stuff <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> If the docker experience on macos is improved, I might consider moving back at some point <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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<p>I would prefer to have port of FreeBSD Jails to the macOS. That would be awesome stuff that could improve BSD usage on servers.</p> 
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<p>After three months in, I’m still happy and don’t miss mac. But ask me again in a few months <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>That’s good to hear - though not even a little bit? Do you use an iPhone? (If so do you miss the continuity at all?)</p>
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<p>But ask me again in a few months <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>I’m sure one of us will Saša <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/776053aa22968f83c10e90c98b23aa0ddd5c9d47.gif?v=15" title=":lol:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":lol:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>I feel that my RAM demands are significantly smaller on Linux. On Mac, I was constantly struggling with 16GB, while these days I rarely go above 8GB. To be fair I’m working on different projects, so this comparison is really shallow. Either way it feels that 32GB should serve me fine for the next few years.</p>
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<p>I have no idea why Apple are so bad with RAM - but then again it seems it may be the only way they can ‘encourage upgrades’ - CPU clock speed hasn’t changed much over the last few years , same with SSDs they are all fast enough.. it’s just RAM - with the operating system and apps seemingly requiring more of it.</p>
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<p>In any case, the new MBP looks great, and I’m happy to see that Apple is going back to producing quality stuff <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> If the docker experience on macos is improved, I might consider moving back at some point <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>I agree, though I’d still be curious how much an equivalent spec’d relatively well made Linux machine would cost - which brand did you go for after? Do they have a model equivalent to these new Macs? (Perhaps we can use <a class="mention" href="/u/factoryd" rel="nofollow">@factoryd</a>’s <a href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/mac-users-thread/24464/35" rel="nofollow">specs/machine</a> as a comparison point <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6c3193d1dd46244da3c8c6f719c9f5e2abdd5ae8.gif?v=15" title=":003:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":003:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20">)</p>
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<p>I reckon that would be cool too <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/sunglasses.png?v=15" title=":sunglasses:" class="emoji" alt=":sunglasses:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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<p>I never owned an iphone, and I completely avoided using the wider Apple ecosystem. While I probably missed some nice things, this reduced my coupling to Apple and made the switch easier <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>I think this could be a major part of the reason why you’re not missing your Mac - there are so many ‘nice’ features when using more than one Apple device.</p>
<p>For instance you can do things like:</p>
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<li>Be browsing a site on one device, then go to it on another</li>
<li>iMessage from either device</li>
<li>Take telephone calls (or see an alert of who’s calling you) on your Mac</li>
<li>Receive text messages on your Mac (very handy when an app sends you an auth code via text - it even autofills it for you)</li>
<li>Apple Music automatically updated on all devices - add a track or playlist on one device it is mirrored on all of your devices</li>
<li>Notes automatically updated on all devices (I actually use this quite a bit - great for drafting and working on emails/etc)</li>
<li>Contacts and calendar updated on all devices</li>
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<p>There’s actually a lot more you can share via iCloud (such as passwords and photos etc) but I don’t use most of it as I wouldn’t want everything I have on their servers.</p>
<p>What I’d love to see in Linux (well on Mac too actually!) is something that I think could attract people away from Apple - have similar functionality to iCloud but where your home computer acts as the ‘cloud’, completely eradicating the need to send your personal documents to somebody else’s server! I’m surprised this hasn’t been done yet - could be a huge draw for the security conscious.</p> 
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<p>I’d rephrase it a bit: it’s a major part of the reason why I’m not overly dependent on Apple <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>The things you’re mentioning are nice, but luckily not  deal-breakers for me, and some of those can be obtained through e.g. Google services (e.g. contacts/calendar).</p>
<p>But yeah, when considering a possible switch, you should definitely take into account how much are you coupled to the wider Apple ecosystem.</p> 
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								<p>There are a few projects out there actually like seafile/owncloud/nextcloud. The main issue is that most people use things like icloud out of convenience.</p>
<p>I’ve tried MANY times to move to linux but as I get older I simply don’t have the time or energy to maintain my computers e.t.c. I don’t like particularly like Apple as a company but their ecosystem does just work.</p>
<p>Just last year I prepared myself for the switch to linux by switching all services to multiplatform ones (dropbox/spotify/lastpass) and sold every Apple device except my MacBook Pro. Just as the hundreds of previous attempts before… I gave up.</p>
<p>I’ve since bought a new iPhone, AirPods, iPad and I’m about to buy the new MacBook Pro. I don’t like the situation but my life is a lot simpler.</p> 
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								<p>I just don’t like the UI’s in Linux. (I set up Linux and manage it for servers.)</p> 
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								<p>What’s wrong with KDE I’m curious?  Perhaps in the linux users thread though.  ^.^;<br>
KDE can look an awful lot like anything you can imagine (even some test 3D interfaces at this point).</p> 
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