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								<p>Ah, heh, yeah <code>p</code> is <code>p</code> to me and <code>P</code> is <code>Shift+p</code> in my mind.  ^.^</p> 
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								<p>Only when I do emacs notation as in C-p and C-P…</p> 
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								<p>I use both VS Code and IntelliJ (Webstorm).  I think VS Code has the better Elixir plugin.</p> 
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								<p>I use Emacs with Alchemist. Atom crashes too often while writing Elixir code, and my fingers could never quite memorize the VIM key mappings, especially when I walked away from coding for a while. Somehow the Emacs key mappings seem to “stick” for me, and Alchemist is an amazing plugin for having a single interface to  a full featured development environment.</p> 
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								<p><strike>One plus for VS Code as editor but plugin for Elixir is also not so great. I don’t know if something can beat Alchemist. Maybe someone will write plugin for VS Code with Alchemist support <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></strike></p>
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I see there is something related to Alchemist (Implemented autocomplete and goto-definition)<br>
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								<p>For those of you who have used Vim in the past but have’t given SpaceMacs a good go yet, I urge you to try it!</p>
<p>I’ve been setting it up myself these past few days and I think I am already in love <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/af393cb8cedadfa17ff6dcccacb282d1cfd30071.gif?v=15" title=":049:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":049:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20">  I’ve also updated our wiki so that it’s an excellent starting point that will get you set-up in no time: <a href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/spacemacs-general-discussion-blog-posts-wiki/109" class="inline-onebox" rel="nofollow">Spacemacs - General Discussion, Blog Posts, Wiki</a></p>
<p>Make sure you use the Elixify theme as well - it makes a difference, even if I do say so myself <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/776053aa22968f83c10e90c98b23aa0ddd5c9d47.gif?v=15" title=":lol:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":lol:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>If you want a taste of why you might want to use it, check out this video that <a class="mention" href="/u/mkunikow" rel="nofollow">@mkunikow</a> posted on the forum earlier today:</p>
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<p>I’m a plain old Emacs user and never latched onto Vim, but this video convinced me to give it a try.</p>
<p>Apparently the Meta commands still work (see when he opens eshell). Learning the Vim-inspired commands and configured commands for integrating with Emacs tools will be easier due to the suggestion buffer that pops up after pressing the leader key.</p>
<p>It may take a while to get used to reaching all the way up to the ESC key all the time, but I bet that can be reconfigured easily.</p>
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<p>Is there any benefit in using eshell? Unfortunately it does not honour my <code>.bash_profile</code> (the ‘normal’ shell does now that I created a <code>.bashrc</code> file though).</p>
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<p>When I launch from terminal with <code>emacs</code> I get the same thing as opening from my dock - which is different to Vim which actually opens inside the terminal window.  Ok just looked, and you can open it inside terminal with <code>emacs --no-window-system</code> - when I do that it ignores my theme but seems ok otherwise.</p> 
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<p>It’s a mixed bag. In practice I often use it for brief ad-hoc tasks and a “real” terminal emulator for longer running tasks like a Phoenix server or tasks that don’t involve Emacs. It’s great if I need to quickly poke around directory trees, cat files, delete files, etc. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dired" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Dired</a> can do some of that too, but it tends to create a lot of buffers and I’m already comfortable with the shell.</p>
<p>My default shell in Ubuntu is currently zsh, and elisp respects that. It even loaded the environment variables configured in my ~/.zshrc. I’m not sure whether it’s inferior to an external terminal in any way other than being slower. Emacs isn’t very good with concurrent tasks, unfortunately.</p>
<p>Other benefits off the top of my head include elisp evaluation and a full-blown Emacs editing experience. In a vanilla terminal if I want to search the stdout of some command, for instance, I often end up running it again with a pipe into less so I can use the ‘/’ search command. In eshell I can use all the standard Emacs features by default. Readline support in terminals goes a long way, but it’s not quite the same as having an Emacs buffer.</p>
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<p>Excellent. I tend to use <code>emacs -nw</code> when I want a terminal session; otherwise, it defaults to GUI like you said.</p> 
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<p>It’s a mixed bag. In practice I often use it for brief ad-hoc tasks and a “real” terminal emulator for longer running tasks like a Phoenix server or tasks that don’t involve Emacs.</p>
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<p>Are there any downsides (particularly in terms of performance or cpu usage) if I have long running tasks such as the web server inside a ‘normal’ shell? If not I’ll be happy to stick to that <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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