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								<p>I have the Ergodox Infinity, and it depends on your layout as far as ruining you for standard keyboards. I go back and forth, and besides my tab key (which is backtick on my Ergodox) I dont have any issues.</p> 
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								<p>Does anyone have any recommendations for a UK Mac keyboard please?</p>
<p>I currently have an Apple wireless keyboard but it’s too small/cramped (I much preferred my older full size wired Apple keyboard but they stopped making them).</p>
<p>I am not a PC gamer or touch typist, and I’d prefer to order from Amazon or Apple if possible - just because their customer care/returns are usually good.</p>
<p>The only must have really is the audio control (prefer keys to wheels) and I’m open to everything else, whether mechanical or not, full or mid (are mechanical really much better?)</p>
<p>I quite like the look of the new wireless magic keyboards:</p>
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<p>Also the Das pro 4 seems one of the few Mac mechanical keyboards available here in the UK:</p>
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<p>I use this one when I put my MacBooks on a laptop stand:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/AZIO-Mechanical-Backlit-keyboard-switches/dp/B01LP3P834" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">AZIO MK MAC Wired Mechanical Backlit keyboard</a>.</p>
<p>Not sure if it has an UK layout, you might have to research the Q&amp;A on the page, or read product description, or contact their support.</p>
<p>It is basically one of the very few choices for: (1) backlit, (2) mechanical, (3) wired keyboard with a Mac layout.</p>
<p>I like it. The keys are little harder to press compared to my PC keyboard but I found it enjoyable and much better than Apple’s official keyboards, be it the builtin on the MacBooks or the external Bluetooth ones. Only drawback for you might be the white backlighting of the keys which, combined with white keys, makes it slightly annoying to use in daylight if you want to look for a key. Still though, it’s a very slight annoyance, I promise you. Unless you use it 99% of the time under bright sunlight, it won’t ever be a problem. Plus you can switch off the lighting during the day – many people do that but not me; I keep the backlight all the time.</p>
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<p>How can you even ask that?! Only a non-mechanical keyboard user can ask that. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=15" title=":stuck_out_tongue:" class="emoji" alt=":stuck_out_tongue:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/heart.png?v=15" title=":heart:" class="emoji" alt=":heart:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>Seriously though, mechanical keyboards improve your typing, like a lot. You have much more robust key pressing feedback. Before them I was constantly second-guessing if a keystroke has been registered and this severely hampered my workflow. Afterwards, these keyboards are now pretty much a subconscious extension of my will.</p> 
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								<p>Do you mean the old Apple Extended Keyboard? I had one of those with ALPS switches, they were wonderful <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> there is a Canadian company called <a href="http://matias.ca/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Matias</a> that developed a modern clone of those keyboards. I just checked and it seems they have an official reseller in the UK: <a href="https://www.keyboardco.com/category.asp?sr=&amp;path=mechanical+keyboards&amp;man=Matias&amp;ss=de&amp;rtv=100" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">https://www.keyboardco.com/category.asp?sr=&amp;path=mechanical+keyboards&amp;man=Matias&amp;ss=de&amp;rtv=100</a></p>
<p>Maybe they have a physical store were you can try them.</p> 
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								<p>Built-in keyboard of MacBook Pro (Late 2016).</p> 
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<p><a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/AZIO-Mechanical-Backlit-keyboard-switches/dp/B01LP3P834" rel="nofollow">AZIO MK MAC Wired Mechanical Backlit keyboard </a>.</p>
<p>Not sure if it has an UK layout, you might have to research the Q&amp;A on the page, or read product description, or contact their support.</p>
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<p>Unfortunately they do not do a UK version <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/frowning.png?v=15" title=":frowning:" class="emoji" alt=":frowning:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>Seriously though, mechanical keyboards improve your typing, like a lot. You have much more robust key pressing feedback. Before them I was constantly second-guessing if a keystroke has been registered and this severely hampered my workflow. Afterwards, these keyboards are now pretty much a subconscious extension of my will.</p>
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<p>Ah nice. I definitely want to give one a go now! Just wish we had better choice here.</p>
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<p>Do you mean the old Apple Extended Keyboard? I had one of those with ALPS switches, they were wonderful <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> there is a Canadian company called <a href="http://matias.ca/" rel="nofollow">Matias</a> that developed a modern clone of those keyboards. I just checked and it seems they have an official reseller in the UK: <a href="https://www.keyboardco.com/category.asp?sr=&amp;path=mechanical+keyboards&amp;man=Matias&amp;ss=de&amp;rtv=100" rel="nofollow">https://www.keyboardco.com/category.asp?sr=&amp;path=mechanical+keyboards&amp;man=Matias&amp;ss=de&amp;rtv=100 </a></p>
<p>Maybe they have a physical store were you can try them.</p>
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<p>It was one of these:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Apple-MB110B-B-Keyboard/dp/B005EMLOP4/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1535073365&amp;sr=8-9&amp;keywords=apple.+keyboard" class="onebox" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">https://www.amazon.co.uk/Apple-MB110B-B-Keyboard/dp/B005EMLOP4/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1535073365&amp;sr=8-9&amp;keywords=apple.+keyboard</a></p>
<p>Fairly standard, just not so cramped <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/776053aa22968f83c10e90c98b23aa0ddd5c9d47.gif?v=15" title=":lol:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":lol:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>I love the look of these WASD customisable keyboards <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6859d251eb1d30084c330dd451119e07820d3619.gif?v=15" title=":007:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":007:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>          <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/wasdkeyboards/22538015138/" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow" class="onebox">
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<p>But by the time you add shipping and customs charges, it’s a bit too much I think.</p>
<p>Could always try the ‘award winning’ <a href="https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-professional/" rel="nofollow">Das Pro 4 (UK/Mac)</a>:</p>
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<p>(Bit on the big side tho)..</p> 
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<p>Unfortunately they do not do a UK version <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/frowning.png?v=15" title=":frowning:" class="emoji" alt=":frowning:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>Oh well, for me that’s not a deal breaker, but apparently it is for you. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>I almost forgot! Take a look at the <a href="http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/code-keyboard.html" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">CODE keyboards</a>; you can mod it with the exact keycaps for Mac + UK layout, and it has hardware switch to… switch… between different modes (PC, Mac, Dvorak, stuff like that). Here is the more <a href="https://www.codekeyboards.com/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">marketing-oriented page</a>.</p>
<p>If my Logitech G600 ends up disappointing me I will probably move to CODE keyboards forever.</p>
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<p>Could always try the ‘award winning’ <a href="https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-professional/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Das Pro 4 (UK/Mac)</a>:</p>
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<p>No backlight, no buy from me. I seriously don’t care how good it is otherwise. ¯_(ツ)_/¯</p>
<p>Do not underestimate backlight. There will come a time when you will feel calmer at the evenings and will want to tackle hobby projects then and not during the afternoon when you will want to be at the beach, or with your wife, or both. Backlight is a sanity-, productivity- and eye-saver.</p> 
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								<p>Also about the Das, the word on the street is that they’ve lowered their quality a lot lately and cheap out on components (like switches). They have also been censoring discussion about alternative software for their latest keyboard on their forum, banning users. After some bad publicity, it seems they have now reversed those bans and apologised, though: <a href="https://imgur.com/a/9w5Kjng" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">https://imgur.com/a/9w5Kjng</a></p>
<p>I would read reviews carefully before jumping into buying a Das.</p> 
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<p>Oh well, for me that’s not a deal breaker, but apparently it is for you. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>Yep, I want the £ where I am used to it <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/776053aa22968f83c10e90c98b23aa0ddd5c9d47.gif?v=15" title=":lol:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":lol:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>Those CODE keyboards look nice, but you can’t customise them? Customisation is what makes me like WASD keyboards <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6c3193d1dd46244da3c8c6f719c9f5e2abdd5ae8.gif?v=15" title=":003:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":003:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>What do they offer that stands out (other than being backlit) that the normal WASD keyboards don’t?</p>
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<p>I don’t need a backlight as I have a lamp on my desk and would never stare at a bright screen (monitor!) in darkness. I’ve found the backlight useful on the laptop while in bed though - but that’s the only situation in which I’d need it.</p>
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<p>Ah that’s a shame. I thought they were using Cherry MX switches in the Pro 4 - and they’re supposed to be good aren’t they?</p> 
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