I really don’t see what’s so bad about foo? && bar || baz. If anything, it’s often easier for me to parse than if as I find it less visually complex (either vertically, or by characters). I don’t spend any extra time parsing it because I already know what it does—it’s a familiar pattern.
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OvermindDL1
It is easy to me because overwhelming perl-work in last job, but I still do not like it. Even C’s pred ? true : false is clearer to me for some reason…
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zimt28
chrismccord
Creator of Phoenix
I would remove discussions from the community’s main forum about what to remove from the language 
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gregvaughn
If you’ve ever worked in a language without short-circuiting boolean expressions, this is relying on side-effects.
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OvermindDL1
I would remove discussions from the community’s main forum about what to remove from the language
Eh it happens for every language, it is not a bad thing to see how a language can be improved, it’s not a personal attack, people just care about it is all, if they didn’t they would not be here. 
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DianaOlympos
Interesting. It once again show how strange my own learning was. I never touched an if before like… the second or possible third year of my programming journey. And i have yet to teach to a complete beginner.
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yurko
Hm, this one spawned few interesting discussions that I enjoyed reading.
There is not much negativity and all in all one can conclude that elixir is in a good place, why remove them? Without critique the community would feel religious, “elixir way is the only true way” style which is not cool imo 
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Crowdhailer
Creator of Raxx
I already posted a link further up the thread. The library I use is called OK and you can find it on hex. The readme has some links to a few further alternatives if needed
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chrismccord
Creator of Phoenix
This issue is these threads almost immediately devolve into:
- removing conditionals
and 2) rehashing discussions that we hashed out and implemented in the mailing list 2 years ago pre 1.0. Then folks argue for or against features without any true context why things are the way they are
The language is young enough that talking about what to remove is actually not productive at all. Also keep in mind every time we see folks like @michalmuskala here doing a fantastic job around fielding feedback on language features and why they are the way they are, we’re taking away useful feedback time from other threads/slack questions/irc.
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