By that definition, Python is the Nr. 1 architecture pusher… Have you ever looked at cookiecutter? It’s probably one of the best tools to generate projects for any language (just look at the list of templates). Not as powerful by default as a Mix task (by design), but makes it much easier to create project templates. It can be used as a library to create “tasks” that are as powerful as Mix tasks, too.
I don’t think you should call this “pushing architecture”. It’s just a template, and a very weakly enforced one, too… It’s a text file: you can customize it beyond recognition, even changing such things as supervision trees. If you want to see an example of someone pushing (bad) architecture, take a look at any WSGI python framework (i.e. Django, Pyramid, Flask, etc.). They are by design constrained in way that the application must be designed in a certain way. I only call this architecture bad because it makes it very, very hard to use stateful connections (which would be unacceptable on the BEAM world)
Yes, and then everything is so decoupled that you end up surprised when the Web part of your application starts without your database, or something like that. Your Project turns into a decentralized Frankenstein monster, in which parts of it move by themselves, disconnected from the central authority of the brain. People here seem to have a passion of decoupling everything into its own app, which is not bad in itself, but maybe some things are meant to be coupled. Otherwise, you might get questions like these (from the subreddit): https://www.reddit.com/r/elixir/comments/6zvsxd/avoiding_circular_dependencies_in_a_phoenix/
I’m nowhere near experienced enough, and maybe I shouldn’t even participate in a discussion that includes all these experienced people, but sometimes this whole “Decoupling” business starts looking less and less like an engineering practice, and more like a religious stance.
I haven’t used that many languages in practice, but for my project I read the “propaganda” for almost everything that’s there (Smalltalk, PHP, Java, Scala, Clojure(script), Racket, Common Lisp, other Lisp dialects, Haskell, OCaml, Python, Rust, C++, Erlang, LFE), and even tried some of them, until settling on Elixir. They all think they have everything figured out.
In my opinion, saying things such as “Only Elixir knows the right way” are counterproductive and sound like propaganda.
I also think that Elixir might be close to a monoculture now, with “everybody” using the same things (Phoenix, the default generators, etc), but if it grows ot might become more like Python: multiple ways to do something, each with its own pros and cons.
