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<p>Oooo, I did not know it had this inconsistency…  I may need to start adding an ending optional ignored argument to all my multi-line (mostly macro) functions so I can keep <code>,</code> at the end.  <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>We should also strive to reduce the amount of ambiguity in the language, introducing more feels like going in the wrong direction.</p>
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<p>The language has a <em>ton</em> of ‘surprising’ cases like this already, this would actually remove one of the surprises if trailing commas were allowed inside parenthesis.  <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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<p>This is exactly why we can’t have trailing commas. You are doing a function call without parenthesis so with trailing commas it’s ambiguous what the last argument is.</p>
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<p>I hadn’t considered that.</p>
<p>However, it seems that the root cause of the ambiguity is that parentheses are optional. There’s nothing ambiguous about this, is there?</p>
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<p>If there’s a closing parenthesis, couldn’t the parser notice that and ignore the trailing comma?</p>
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<p>I totally agree. Making parentheses required for function calls would remove the ambiguity, at some (arguable) aesthetic cost.</p> 
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<p>Indeed, I’d have the parser only accept trailing commas if it is inside parenthesis, otherwise it’d be disallowed.</p> 
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<p>Yes, that’s what we do inside brackets. But we don’t want to add it for function calls because, like I said earlier, we can’t support it for parenthesis-less functions and we feel it would be inconsistent and confusing to only support it for some function calls.</p>
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								<p>I’m not sure this topic is worth discussing any longer. I think everyone feels like the loss of the trailing comma is worth losing over losing optional parenthesis. I remember the backlash when elixir started warning about omitting parenthesis when piping and I’m fairly positive thats not something the community would be willing to trade.</p> 
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								<p>I wonder why you would want trailing commas in function calls.</p>
<p>Functions in Elixir and Erlang are defined by their name and arity. A trailing comma in a function call seems to introduce unnecessary ambiguity when it comes to the arity of the called function.</p>
<p>Does <code>foo(bar,)</code> refer to <code>foo/1</code> or <code>foo/2</code> with the second parameter accidentally omitted?</p> 
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<p>Multi-line, especially useful for macro’s:</p>
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<p>Convoluted example, but it gets the point across.  Plus it unifies the trailing comma syntax with <code>[]</code> and <code>{}</code> and <code>%{}</code> too, thus making things more consistent.  <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>I’d never recommend a trailing comma in a single-liner, not in any of those.</p> 
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								<p>But in this example, you’re still using the trailing comma for a keyword list and not for function parameters.</p> 
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<img alt="" width="24" height="24" src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/user_avatar/forum.elixirforum.com/wmnnd/48/4985_2.png" class="avatar"> wmnnd:</div>
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<p>But in this example, you’re still using the trailing comma for a keyword list and not for function parameters.</p>
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<p>Each of those lines were intended to be exampled stand-alone.  ^.^</p> 
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