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<p>Lastly, when you say</p>
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<p>are you speaking from experience? I ask because that being an issue is not at all obvious to me. As mentioned above, the assumption that the same syntax is allowed for all calls regardless of parenthasis does not hold: trailing commas are allowed at the end of bracketless keyword lists inside parenthasis calls, but not inside parenthasis-less.</p>
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<p>I’ve always felt conflicted about the syntactic sugar that allows dropping brackets on keyword lists if they’re the final parameter of a function call. For instance, try explaining to a newcomer to Elixir why this should happen:</p>
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# foo: "bar"
# "bar"
IO.inspect(a: "bar", label: "foo")
# [a: "bar", label: "foo"]
# [a: "bar", label: "foo"]
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<p>This bit of sugar makes reading code more confusing for a somewhat cool (but not essential, as far as I know), feature. If it were up to me, I would enforce brackets around keyword lists (and continue to push replacing keyword lists with map). So the previous calls would unambiguously be:</p>
<pre data-code-wrap="elixir"><code class="lang-elixir">IO.inspect("bar", [label: "foo"])
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<p>In any case, I lean more towards the side of keeping the syntax between function calls with and without parens as close as possible, and don’t think trailing commas inside function calls with parens moves the language in a good direction.</p> 
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<p>Absolutely thus.  If Elixir did not start before maps were added to the BEAM, I bet that is what would have been done.</p> 
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<p>For this special case you can simply put the comma at the beginning of the line.<br>
Elm is doing it this way and it feels not that bad to me.</p>
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<p>I prefer the OCaml way.  ^.^</p>
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<p>I.E. Trailing comma’s.  ^.^<br>
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Elm is doing it this way and it feels not that bad to me.</p>
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<p>Anyway, this discussion is pointless, as I said earlier, since current version of the elixir formatter removes all trailing commas anyway.</p>
<p>There are tests in <a href="https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/blob/7f8136915fe249efa47a21a89ff0f04e880264fc/lib/elixir/test/elixir/code_formatter/containers_test.exs" class="inline-onebox" rel="nofollow">elixir/lib/elixir/test/elixir/code_formatter/containers_test.exs at 7f8136915fe249efa47a21a89ff0f04e880264fc · elixir-lang/elixir · GitHub</a> that show that the removal of trailing comma is as expected.</p>
<p>Also I remember a discussion on <code>core</code> or the issue tracker where <a class="mention" href="/u/josevalim" rel="nofollow">@josevalim</a> said, that trailing commans will be removed by the formatter and that this is not an option to discus.</p>
<p>So as much as I’d like to have them, in my opinion we can remove them from the parser in general, since the standard formatter, which we are all encouraged to use from 1.6s release on, will remove them anyway!</p> 
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Let’s destroy all structure in code and make everything look like everything else!<br>
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								<p>I’m happy to drop this issue - it’s not the way I prefer, but it’s not important.</p> 
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								<p>Who’s talking about syntax?<br>
The visual arrangement will change and function arguments will go where function body is supposed to be.<br>
Can<br>
you<br>
explain<br>
why<br>
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is<br>
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I really don’t get it.<br>
The arguments of a function are a single event.</p> 
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