AMD's new multicore CPUs (Ryzen, Naples)

Looking at benchmarks of Ryzen CPU’s it looks like performance per dollar wise, AMD is simply crushing Intel as of now. Of course I mean scenarios where we are using all available resources, and not simple one thread applications, because where it comes to raw IPC (instructions per clock), intel is still ahead marginally.

I hope Apple will update Mac Pro, mini and MacBook Pro with Ryzen CPUs

I bet they will switch to ARM earlier

I would like to see server (especially BigData) CPU from AMD with lots of cores and price much more lower than $7k
Anyway new desktop processors looks promising.

Will see!

It’s usually been that way through-out their history. AMD’s usually been a little bit slower, but a lot cheaper. Intel is good if you have money to burn and want to max your performance, though occasionally, like now, AMD takes the lead on both price and performance.

However with IPC Intel is not necessarily always ahead, its IPC style has pros and cons so if it is better depends heavily on the workload you are doing.

From what I read Intel and AMD have now same instructions set, and when it comes to benchmarking different software scenarios it’s there is no significant difference. One major difference is that some software (some games mainly) treat all Ryzen’s threads as physical cores, and makes no difference between logical and physical cores. This makes Ryzen lagging in performance, but is being addressed. And by Intel having more IPC, I meant benchmarks that put Ryzen’s and i7’s clocked similarly doing stuff on once core only. In that scenarios Intel’s simply performs better. But I don’t know many applications that really have only one thread, and even still most of them are not CPU, but rather I/O bound.

I know often AMD was sometimes better when it comes to performance per dollar. But I don’t remember when was last time that AMD had both processors which were more performant in most scenarios, and had lower TDP, still costing more then a half less (i7-6900k vs Ryzen 7 1800X). That’s why I wrote AMD is crushing Intel as of now And that’s why I think Naples has a very big chance to bite a big chunk of server market.

As far as I remember I had AMD CPU’s in my desktops because I don’t need top shelf performance, when I can have good enough performance for reasonable money. But Intel in my laptops because of performance per watt ratio much better in intel’s mobile CPU’s. I’m really not trying to biased here.

And first time for the past 6 years, I think that performance gain over my old six core T1100 is worth the money when I read about Ryzen’s 7 CPU’s. I’m just waiting for UEFI/BIOS stabilization so I can put fast 3200 maybe even 3400 RAM sticks into motherboard and have it work without problems. Because sadly as of now Ryzen’s platform is still a bit too young to be stable enough for me.

Ditto, I have AMD in my desktop because I am very cheap and it has always been ‘good enough’. Though my laptop has an ARM chip, because screw the inefficient x86 instruction set! ^.^

My current desktop CPU though is the old AMD Phenom ][ 6-core, 4.2ghz or whatever it was but overclocked to as high as I could stabily get it, it is old, but still does me very well. And honestly I have no clue how it is dead. The youngest thing in my desktop aside my SSD boot drive is probably 6 years old, and the oldest is… should not be running, at all, I really have no clue how my desktop still lives… ^.^;

That’s probably the same model as mine T1100 and even it was factory clocked at 3.3 Ghz, I managed to run it for few years at 3.9 with less than perfect cooling But recently sadly I had to downclock it to 3.4 because it ran too hot and simply strange errors started to pop up here and there

Lol, yeah I ran so many tests on mine when I first overclocked it and had to keep turning it down until it got to what it is now. I have a pretty beefy cooling unit that can circulate quickly (I used to be big into overclocking, now I’m more eh about it) but it still seems stable. I should probably run another gamut of tests on it to fully stress it and see if it is ‘still’ stable this many many years later… >.>

Hmm, SSH’ing home right quick… some stats from the linux kernel right quick:

        Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
        Product Name: GA-890XA-UD3

        Socket Designation: Socket M2
        Type: Central Processor
        Family: Athlon
        Manufacturer: AMD
        Version: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor

        Installed Size: 4096 MB (Double-bank Connection)
        Enabled Size: 4096 MB (Double-bank Connection)
        x4 (16 gigs total RAM, max for this motherboard, I **SO** very badly need more, 16gigs is *not* enough!)

I entirely forgot what I had… ^.^;

But this thing has been solid and lasted a very long time. This CPU was one of the only ones I bought when it was just released (like a month later) too (I usually wait a year or so, but was doing major hardware upgrades at the time) but I got it at a discount due to other purchases (like $140 I think, basically a steal) and I’m amazed it is still running…