sergio_101

sergio_101

What are authentication options for Phoenix/Absinthe

I read through some of the forum posts, and it looks like we might want to update this conversation.

I have built several personal (toy) apps in Phoenix. It now looks like I might be able to pitch a new project using Phoenix. We have used Rails for our MVC projects for the past ten years, but we’re looking to edit our workflow a bit. We are looking to do the following:

  • Create Phoenix/Absinthe as an API for all data
  • Create a separate Phoenix app for the application interface.
  • Create some Authentication/Authorization system that the front end application can use with the API.

In the past, we’ve used Rails/Devise for authentication (and the ability to change passwords, etc.). Still, one of our primary goals is to remove the Authentication system from the application.

How are you guys doing this for professional (and relatively high traffic) applications?

Thanks!

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derek-zhou

derek-zhou

If I understand you correctly, there is really no stopping a determined and authorized user from using the web API in unexpected way. Cookie can be reused, headers can be sniffed, you really can’t trust that the API calls are from your own applications, be it JAMStack or native.

On a related note, I just did something like that. I need to read some textbook I purchased through McGraw Hill, however the shitty website insist me to read the book through their online reader. So I hit F12, save the cookie, wrote a simple script and scraped the whole book down completely. I consider this fair use.

Had McGraw Hill wised up and used LiveView to stream the book content through web socket to their javascript reader it will be a lot harder though.

derek-zhou

derek-zhou

JAMstack technology only makes the easily scalable part even easier to scale. It is a benefit for sure, but not as big as people would like to believe.

Exadra37

Exadra37

APIs are very hard to properly secure(I work in a company specialized in tackling the issue), therefore unless you have a strong use case for exposing an API, don’t do it.

Instead just write your code were business logic is totally separated from the web app logic, thus if in the future you need to add a mobile app then it’s very easy to build an API for it.

I strongly advise you to build your web app in the traditional way, aka without using APIs, and by preference with the LiveView approach, that creates more strong ties between the backend and the client side.

Just build an Authentication server that works through the powerful message passing mechanism that Elixir provides, and then use it as a path dependency to any of your projects in order to use it as a BEAM node in your application, but not exposing it as an API to the Internet. This is my 2 cents high level view, and I don’t have production experience yet with Elixir, but this how I am gonna build it for all the web apps I am planning to put online.

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Exadra37

Exadra37

Even ethical hacker have been presented to court because of doing so.

Don’t play this game because you can get in trouble. All depends on the company and the laws in that country.

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