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								<p>I’ve never been able to get WSL to install tbh. Granted this is a reflection on Windows.</p> 
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								<p>Why not start a thread for Windows Elixir Users and see if there’s anything you can work on together to help improve the Windows experience?</p>
<p>There are a few Windows users listed here:</p>
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    What is your primary dev OS? And is there any software you’d like to recommend that could make development easier? (Apart from the <a href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/elixir-code-editors-ides-2017-which-one-are-you-using-poll/3191" rel="nofollow">code editor</a> of course <img width="20" height="20" src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/776053aa22968f83c10e90c98b23aa0ddd5c9d47.gif?v=15" title="lol" alt="lol" class="emoji emoji-custom">) 
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<p>What type of issues did you have?</p>
<p>I’ve been running it as my full time dev environment since 17.09 (about 2’ish years now) and didn’t come across any issues in all of the releases from then until the latest stable release.</p> 
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<p>IIRC the windows store just broke. Wouldn’t download the Ubuntu. Very predictable situation tbh. Git Bash works ok though.</p> 
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<p>Are you running something like Shut Up 10 or another tool that might try to black hole certain Microsoft web addresses? You don’t need to confirm or deny that publicly, but you may or may not need to loosen the chains on such a tool to get the MS store working.</p> 
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<p>It is a risky statement.<br>
Why do Linux users hate Microsoft? I don’t hate or love Microsoft.</p> 
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								<p>There are non-developer/programmer/IT Linux users out there - I’m simply not aware of any particular Linux distro that caters to that particular group as much as Windows/MacOS does.</p>
<p>As I stated Android seems to be the biggest Windows competition - but that I wouldn’t classify that as a desktop OS.</p>
<p>Perhaps <em>Microsoft-hater</em> was a bit strong. I was referring to the fact that most desktop systems come or are even designed for Windows - and the mainstream consumer behaviour is to stick with that. You have to <strong>go out of your way</strong> to get Linux on a desktop system - which isn’t mainstream consumer behaviour.</p> 
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								<p>I think the popular one is Ubuntu. I freelance as a computer repair guy, and from time to time I see a Linux box and most of the time, it has Ubuntu (or one of its derivatives like UbuntuStudio, or Xubuntu). The only time I’ve been called to fix one of those was because of a hardware failure. The windows machines on the other hand, are spyware/malware based repairs.<br>
The Windows 10 experience sucked, flaky os, malware preinstalled, background operations and internet communications that are hidden.<br>
Windows 2016 Server with desktop experience installed is much better. Clean and not preloaded with junk I will never use.</p> 
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