michael_teter

michael_teter

Hi All.

I have experience with multiple languages and experience with Rails framework, but I don’t yet know anything about Elixir.

If my immediate need is to build a new webapp, and I intend to try with Phoenix (given its positive reviews), is it important for me to first learn Elixir? Or is it easy enough to pickup along the way with Phoenix tutorials?

Thanks in advance!

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hubertlepicki

hubertlepicki

Do learn Elixir first. It is not Ruby, nor object oriented language.

The Phoenix framework will be easier to pick up once you know Elixir idioms. Iti s also very similar to Ruby. But you will use it better way if you know how Elixir and OTP, umbrella apps work etc.

Edit: also, I found a good way is to build a simple API first to get a feeling of the language/tools, rather than starting with a big project.

sotojuan

sotojuan

Please learn Elixir first. Phoenix is not Rails—it’s just a web server with some conveniences. To really take advantage of it, learn the language first and then some OTP.

Do you really need to build a web app now? A week or half a week or learning Elixir will pay off.

outlog

outlog

agree with all the others.

I would recommend going through the elixirkoans.io, after you have read up on elixir at elixirschool etc. - gets you through a lot of the syntax.

michael_teter

michael_teter OP

Fair enough. I have some functional experience with Clojure, so hopefully I can ramp up on Elixir in a week or less. Unfortunately I do have a time sensitive project to do now, and I’m really wanting to not fall back into the old pattern of just using the tools I know (but wish to break free from :wink: ).

Thanks for the suggestions!

AstonJ

AstonJ

We’re very lucky to have some really well written books so definitely check them out :023:

Also don’t forget you can get 25% off both Programming Elixir and Programming Phoenix via your control panel on our competition sites (we are giving away a copy of each per month).

As many have pointed out, Elixir and Phoenix while may look familiar if you know Ruby and Rails, but under the hood they are quite different :003:

OvermindDL1

OvermindDL1

Oh if you have good Clojure experience then although the syntax here is significantly different you will pick up the idioms very quickly. You might even be able to start with phoenix and elixir concurrently without much issue. :slight_smile:

Just keep in mind, Phoenix is mostly just a set of plugs, nothing is magical, feel free to look in its source code to see how anything is done. :slight_smile:

michael_teter

michael_teter OP

Sorry, I’m not clear how to exercise the discount on pragprog.com. I’m new here, so I don’t know what the competition sites are…

AstonJ

AstonJ

Here ya go :023:

sotojuan

sotojuan

Here’s a really good example of why knowing the language well pays off:

https://redd.it/5qsquu

See the first answer.

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