rainwater11
In what ways may the Elixir logo be used? What license is it under? Creative Commons?
I appreciate any help from the community, thanks!
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josevalim
Me neither, so I understand the struggle. But you can also just ask.
Drop only version added to the repo.
JsonKody
Yep, I’ve read them, but English isn’t my native language, so I was uncertain about a few sentences. I also used several translators to be sure about those parts. If I understood correctly, the key points are that the logo can’t be modified and can’t be combined with other graphics. Since the official link only provides versions with the text ‘Elixir,’ I interpret cutting out this text as modifying the logo.
josevalim
Oh, now I see. You could just have mentioned this. Is it really necessary to call names and going into a long rant? You could just have described the problem. I will publish only the drop version.
josevalim
I am not sure what you are talking about. The guideline says:
Showing it non-commercial content, video, blog, presentation, etc. All falls under nominative use.
The document explicitly shows as an example of permitted use:
So I have to ask, have you read the guidelines?
JsonKody
Yep, I hesitated to use that word, but I don’t call them “people.” I’m referring to the policy…
A logo is a “visual language,” and graphic designers are the people who work in that domain. You’ll find that almost no professional designer can use the logo without breaking some rule in that policy, so legally, the logo is unusable as it is.
The only workaround I see is to create a similar but different ‘community’ logo that could be recognized as the Elixir logo.
P.S.: The policy itself would be fine if there were an official logo that’s just the “drop,” but there isn’t. It’s quite unfortunate.
cmo
Or add on your own purple drip.
Probably not worth calling people stupid over.
JsonKody
So, using just the Elixir drop in my graphic is not allowed? It’s really the only way to visually communicate “this is the Elixir language,” and I find it pretty silly that it’s not legally allowed.
If I browse articles across the internet about the Elixir programming language, I find that these rules are being broken everywhere.
Uses just drop - against policy
https://www.codingninjas.com/studio/library/elixir-programming-introduction
I could probably find hundreds of articles, but I’ll stop here. That rule is just stupid, like “Rust Foundation level” stupid.
They’re simply missing a variant of the logo that’s “just the drop,” so everyone has to either change the logo and go against policy, or just not use graphics (or create bad graphics, which is worse than not using graphics at all).
PS: I apologize for my earlier strong language, but I’m quite frustrated with unnecessary and inefficient bureaucracy that seems to hamper the Elixir community. It appears that many articles, free courses, and YouTube thumbnails that aim to promote Elixir and Phoenix are at odds with existing trademark rules. I don’t believe this is due to any malicious intent to violate Elixir’s trademark policy; rather, it’s that the policy doesn’t accommodate what seems to be the most straightforward use of the Elixir drop symbol.
josevalim
Click the link and it will take you to our trademark policy page: Trademarks policy - The Elixir programming language
leductam
I’m preparing for some presentation about Elixir and would like to add Elixir logo to the them. I searched this topic, and saw that the last updated time at Nov 2019.
And go to elixir-lang repo on Github, there is a commit updated at Aug 10, 2021, which mentioned that:
Then might I use the Elixir logo from now on?
josevalim
Yes, a “Built with Elixir” text with a link is enough. Once the trademark process is done, we will put up a page with the rules for general use of the logo.