AstonJ

AstonJ

Phil just posted this on EFS:

…interesting that some of the key updates to JavaScript appear heavily influenced by (or blatantly copied from) Elixir

Here are some blog posts about it:

https://medium.com/@alexdev82/whats-new-in-javascript-es2025-f9e99d04f45c

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garrison

garrison

Unfortunately it seems like this article is fake AI slop (see the HN discussion).

It appears some of the proposals are real, e.g. pattern matching, but are nowhere near being accepted. The record proposal was withdrawn, which is a shame because native immutable data structures sound kinda nice. The pipe proposal is stage 2 at least.

It is interesting how many of these proposals are reminiscent of Elixir, though. And pattern matching has already made it into Rust and Python AFAIK, so that one probably has a good chance.

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Schultzer

Schultzer

I have to this day never seen anything remotly resembling pattern matching to what we have on the BEAM, it’s a misnomer to call it pattern matching in Rust with the perspective of the BEAM.

tfwright

tfwright

I have to strongly disagree here. Of course readability increases with familiarity but that doesn’t mean there isn’t significant variation in baselines. The difference is quite clear between languages that value clean, communicative apis and those that don’t, just as there is between frameworks, and code bases.

And I have had the opposite experience, of developers shutting their ears to criticism around readability/clarity because in their view only “objective” metrics like performance, or LOC, etc, matter when assessing code quality.

edit Also should say I think the point that languages having their own domains makes direct comparisons problematic, is absolutely valid, but even, or rather especially those cases illustrate the power of readability. Like many newcomers to Elixir I started with little to no knowledge of parallel computing, and although of course this made the OTP stuff more opaque than, say, the Enum module, the care put into expressing the problem the clear consistent way made it a lot easier to gain that familiarity.

sodapopcan

sodapopcan

As much as I love it, in my experience aesthetics have been taken to extremes in Elixir in code I’ve had to work to the point where it makes me sad. The biggest (but not only) culprit would be the pipe operator, so I don’t really blame folks from other languages for being extremely skeptical.

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lud

lud

Alright, thank you! :slight_smile:

(Yeah sometimes I want to keep an alias like MyApp.Schemas and then use Schemas.Foo, Schemas.Bar but Quokka doesn’t respect that :smiley: )

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