Code inspections vs unit tests

I believe I haven’t broken the rules but felt I had to call him out. He’s not interested in a discussion and yet, this is a forum.

Do let me know if I crossed the line though, I won’t object.

My mod box is full of flag requests.

Gentlemen, can we please continue this controversial topic without shouting?

It’s ok to disagree, but do it with form

“Evidence-based” is not a stick to beat other people with. Scientific literature is always subject to review: you cannot assume that because something is written in a paper, it’s proved and decided. Papers are part of the discussion, not the end of it. If you are implying that finding problems with a paper means being unscientific, I think you are misguided.

You cited a paper titled “On the Relation Between Unit Testing and Code Quality”. The paper could not find a strong link between unit tests and code quality. I think there are multiple problems with the paper, from the fact that code quality is not an unequivocal physical measurement like temperature, to the small sample size, making generalization at least dubious. Even then, the result is not surprising: I argue that testing is not about code quality, but about keeping cost of change down.

I would not be surprised to find that eating fruit and vegetables does not reduce the risk of getting struck by lightnings, but that does not mean that we should all stop eating them.

Also, beware of your own selection bias when cherry-picking studies.

Anybody knows how I can once and forever leave this forum? I mean not just logout.

There is a lot of research done concerning evidence-based software engineering and there are outcomes that you can take profit from. For the rest I will neglect your hostile reaction. That means a flag.

Dude, if you want to talk to yourself, please just start a blog and get this over with?

It’s the same with you every time:

1. You express a strong opinion.
2. You claim it’s supported by science.
3. You cite a very sketchy paper (which, as I pointed out, doesn’t even qualify for a “paper” in the pure scientific terms).
4. You are passive-aggressive when criticised:

Q.E.D.

5. You start dancing on the edge of the forum rules by subtly telling people their opinion is bad:

There exists no evidence at all when we’re talking about ways to approach creating and maintaining a software project. There’s no OneAndOnly® solution; it all depends on the project. I don’t know why this is so hard to accept but I am giving up.

Seriously, at this point it speaks bad for me that I am even responding to you. I am taking it as a future improvement remark towards bettering myself.

Again, a friendly advice: if you like talking to yourself and don’t want your opinion discussed, just start a blog and disable comments.

This question is very serious. If if you think my own-opinion-based development is wrong, please enlighten me.

And please answer my other replies, even though they were not in the same threat. I can compile it into one if need be.

Point taken.

So should I tell my employer that we need to hire an expert team to inspect our code before we do the next deployment? Or should I tell them that we it will take longer because we are trying to write reasonable, test based code?

EDIT:

What exactly are you proposing?

I gave my own experience, based by me, and I think I made it quite clear that everything is my opinion.

If I can’t be prove for my own experience… wtf can.

I want to work evidence based, not on what one enjoys or not.

Excuse me? Seriously?

“Oh man, that company drained me, 12 hours a day, tight schedules, always asking for more!”
“Ah, I want to work evidence based, not on what one enjoys or not.”

This is what we are dealing with, not some studies.