ilya-kolpakov
I think the behavior of pattern matching on null-valued pairs within structs is surprising:
iex(6)> defmodule A do defstruct [:a, :b] end
iex(7)> match?(%A{a: a}, %A{})
true
iex(8)> match?(%{a: a}, %{})
false
I would argue this is not very useful. By matching on the struct itself (e.g. on %A{}) we already know the keys that are going to be present. Hence pattern-matching on members provides zero additional value.
IMO, it would be more useful if the above struct match returned false. Indeed, it would provide a way to test a semantical presence of a value rather than a mechanical one. This can be done via guards but the syntax is more verbose.
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OvermindDL1
Ahh, I think I was thinking about lists (as lists are the default ‘string’ type in erlang):
Substantial performance difference on binaries though (a good 50% slower for match contexts)! And of course the list test is faster than the binary test regardless of how it is done (the BEAM is built for lists instead of binaries when processing them out). ^.^
EDIT: The code is about the same is @michalmuskala’s except the count is increased to 1000 to prevent fast function warnings and I added some tuple cases to each set (unmatched in all cases) with the string/list test being at the top or bottom of the tuple matchers as per the test name.
OvermindDL1
Ooo really? Interesting… Back in the day just by swapping from guards to match’s of precisely that style on erlang more than doubled the speed of things I made that were head-heavy. At least back then I remember Guards being run ‘after’ the match tree had been run, so if you had any kind of sizeable head-count for functions/cases then lifting more into the match context would be quite valuable. Fascinating though, thanks for the benchmark, though I wonder if that holds true with large head counts still?
michalmuskala
This is not true. At least not on today’s BEAM. Matching on
<<_:binary>>is going to be faster, if you’re doing a binary pattern match already, to keep the “single match context” optimization. But if you’re only checking if something is a binary, it’s going to be slower. This is primarily because it needs to allocate the match context (which creates garbage on the heap that will lead to sooner garbage collection), while checkingis_binarydoes not involve any memory movements. This memory access (and GC jitter) can be seen in the increased deviation of the benchmark.The benchmark code:
OvermindDL1
How would you do that?
A struct is just a map, so worst-case someone could just
Map.put(someStruct, :theKey, nil)…I came from the erlang world with a lot of network parsing, I’ve been working with the BEAM off and on for ~15 years I think now (early 2000’s). ^.^
ilya-kolpakov
Not necessarily. One could forbid keeping
nilvalues in structs but keep the set of possible keys somewhere else (which, in turn, might be useful for defining the order of keys for instance).Interesting, I would not have guessed. Did you learn it by trying to optimize some code or by learning BEAM internals?
OvermindDL1
That is entirely dictated by the BEAM VM itself.
As for structs, they act very much like ‘records’ from Erlang.
And to do something like having
match?(%A{a: a}, %A{})return false then it would have to have a guard, and guards introduce a non-trivial hit in processing time (doing<<_:binary>>is faster than doings when is_binary(s)for one example), which is dreadfully important at times.ilya-kolpakov
Ben, thanks a lot for your detailed answer. I was probably not clear enough about it, but I am not interested in
match?per se but rather in the design decision behind pattern matching implementation for structs. Given that I understand how structs are implemented I see that pattern matching works in a most straightforward way.benwilson512
It provides tons of value if you include a pattern on those members, or if you include those members in a guard.
Let’s filter all As that are empty
Ultimately the whole point of
match?is that it works exactly like:If you want some other characteristic then you want some other function.
We are more than happy to try to help provide the most idiomatic way to achieve whatever your goal is in this situation. Just understand that suggestions that involve breaking changes to core functions are unlikely to gain a lot of traction.
ilya-kolpakov
Thanks for the suggestions. Indeed,
!!won’t work within a function signature unfortunately.idi527
Oh, I thought the goal was to get a
false.