jeffdeville
@schrockwell - I wasn’t sure if it’d be better to ask this here, or as a github issues, but thought more input would be sourced this way.
v2 of Bodyguard was recently released GitHub - schrockwell/bodyguard: Simple authorization conventions for Phoenix apps · GitHub
It’s AWESOME for authorization in phoenix 1.3. Highly recommended.
I do have one question that’s more about the docs and the 1.3 Phoenix release than anything else though.
Where do you CALL your authorization logic? The examples for bodyguard suggest doing so in the controller. That’s how things were done before, and it certainly keeps methods that otherwise don’t have any need for the user object to not require it. But it also makes it really easy to skip your authorization calls (inside or outside of your phoenix app). So it seems like forcing authorization would be ideal.
One other option would be to look at authorization from an AoP point of view. To do that effectively in phoenix, I think you’d need to find a way to store the current user on each call, and then wrap all of your auth-requiring methods in macros that will check your policies before executing the underlying code.
I saw a great article on Function Decorators here that could be used.
The negative to this approach is just that part about having to set ‘invisible’ data as context to a function. It never bothered me in OOP land, but it feels anti-functional here.
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OvermindDL1
I perform validation right on the line before accessing a DB call or refining data based on some permission. I have a lot of lines like this scattered about (copy/pasted):
jeffdeville
Interesting.
I prefer not to have to see the same code repeated everywhere, particularly when it’s orthogonal to what the controller is really trying to do.
In a pre 1.3 world, you could probably do pretty well with a solution like this:
plug :load_user
plug :load_resource
plug :authorize
That would assume a fairly standard, RESTful layout, but for most web apps, it wouldn’t be far off. However, in a context world I’m pretty sure the right direction is to enforce security at your context boundaries.
jeffdeville
Ok, here’s a compromise option between AoP and functional.
This would get compiled to this:
That way, the controller and everyone else is forced to provide that user for authorization, but doesn’t hide the user parameter and obfuscate how things work. And the context method gets to have a single responsibility.
OvermindDL1
Oh I don’t have it in the controller’s, it is in the modules that handle that necessary work. ^.^
Yeah that would not even remotely work here. I have to verify they have access to very specific things. Like even when I get rows back from a database I have to verify that they have permission to access specific rows so I
Enum.filtera lot. Plugs entirely fail there.tmbb
Just to add to the point: I feel like I’ve gained superpowers the day I discovered I could check for permissions wherever I wanted and that a permission check is just an function that returns true or false (this was a long time ago, in python-land).
“Declarative permissions” and friends and all fine and good when it makes sense, but sometimes you just have to ask (the DB, the rules, the world, etc) if this user can do that, and often you only know exactly which question to ask just before you ask it.
schrockwell
Hi @jeffdeville – you’ve raised a good question. I went back-and-forth internally for a while about this. I think we can at least agree that, whether called internally or externally, the
authorize/3callback should exist directly on the context module itself, since it’s a context-specific API that determines what user can do.Off the top of my head, here are some arguments for performing authorization in a controller action:
conn.assigns[:current_user]) into every context function if not needed (although lots of the time, we end up doing that anyway)… and some arguments for performing authorization in a context function:
So while I did pick controller-level authorization for the code examples, I don’t think it’s the One True Way, and the overall design is certainly up to you.
I think there is room in Bodyguard for a design element that gives you the best of both worlds – a way to perform authorization from within a context function (better design) but doesn’t require repetitive auth checks and passing the user model around everywhere (more convenient). I haven’t thought it through so I’m open to suggestions.
jeffdeville
@schrockwell, if I took a stab at the macro described above (msg 4), and had it check the policies the way you have laid out, would you be interested in incorporating it into bodyguard? I believe it would meet the pros of both strategies with out the cons of either.
schrockwell
Yeah, I’d definitely be interested. I’ve opened an issue: Add macro for incorporating authorization checks directly in contexts · Issue #30 · schrockwell/bodyguard · GitHub
jeffdeville
Thanks! I’ll give it a shot soon.
jeffdeville
Implementation question. I can implement this as 1 method where the auth is baked in as in my description above, or I can implement it like this:
compiling to:
Pros
Testing is easier, because you can write specs against
__create_user__for that functionality, and test the policy for the security separately.Cons
It is possible to skip the auth check, but it’s pretty obvious you’re doing it.
I’m leaning toward this approach because I don’t worry about malicious developers using my libraries, and it feels like a reasonable balance of productivity and security, but I’m open to critiques.